University of Canberra Deputy Vice-Chancellor Leigh Sullivan discusses the findings of the aged care royal commission’s interim report with Michelle Grattan. They also talk about the minister for Indigenous Australians, Ken Wyatt’s announcement of an Indigenous “voice to government”, and Anthony Albanese’s first of a series of ‘vision statements’.

Michelle Grattan does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive funding from any company or organisation that would benefit from this article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their academic appointment.